Part 2 with Kevin & Lana Vawser regularly release prophetic insight God gives them and are now training others to steward God’s heart. Hear how God has been speaking to them and helping them lead a generation of emerging prophetic voices on this episode of the Kingdom Awakening podcast.

Jeff

Welcome to the Kingdom Awakening podcast. Join us as we look for prophetic insight on current events, hear testimonies from around the world, review church reformation, share biblical teaching and more. I’m your host, Jeff Symons. I hope this show helps you connect with God. What I’m hearing you describe the school of intercession. It sounds different than some of the ways that I’ve seen intercession done in the past, which was more through striving. So how. How would you distinguish intercession and how the Lord is leading you guys in the current school?

Lana

Like, the place of authority and the place of victory that we’re seeing people be awakened to. That where some of our students at times have felt like, I am constantly striving and trying to reach to get victory. Now there’s this settledness of actually victory is ours in Christ. That’s where I begin. So I’m praying from victory and for victory. And that’s changing the way I think, that we’re seeing in the early weeks of. Yeah. Of some. Some people beginning to like. It’s clicking. Ah, okay. No, all authority has been given. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I would agree.

Jeff

Well, I also think there’s something that’s interesting when it comes to spiritual disciplines is you can be doing a good thing but still be striving. And I’ve noticed myself at times in the past, and I can’t quite point to a external thing for when it’s happening. I just know when I feel it in my heart, when my confidence is because I’ve been, you know, I’ll be confident in something because I’ve been praying for 12 hours as opposed to, I have the word of the Lord and, you know, so you can have misplaced confidence and at the same time, you can strive and wear yourself out doing a spiritual activity that the Lord hasn’t called you to or, you know, like you were mentioning earlier, I’ve been at recently, in September, I was just in Uganda and I was preaching. I preached more in that week than I probably have in the last two years. It was, you know, three hours at a time. It was three or four services a day. It was, you know, and. And there was grace for it. If you’d have told me ahead of time, I would have freaked out.

Jeff

But. And then, you know, as soon as it was over, it was like my body just went, you know, rest. But. But there was grace for all of the activity. So sometimes I think we, we can. We look externally and say, oh, that’s a Spiritual activity. It’s good or it’s not a sp. You know, it’s. Or you’re doing too much. And it’s really just a question of where is the grace to put your time and your efforts into.

Lana

Oh, okay. I was just going to say, because you reminded me. Many years ago, I was with Youth with a Mission in Chico, California and I did my DTS and then we went on to do a prayer school and they said, oh, we’re going to go to this place called the Call and we’re going to minister there. I was like, awesome. I had no idea what the call was. We go there and I meet this guy who’s this incredible intercessor and he’s rocking like this and I’m like, oh, for a Baptist girl, what is happening right now? And anyway, the reason I tell you that is because when we went there, a few of the students had felt like they were going to do a 40 day fast and they were going to intercede and just water. So like, just water for 40 days and they were going to intercede leading up to the call and then into the call. And I was like, awesome, let’s do it. I almost died, Jeff. I was like, oh my gosh. But there was like, there was no grace on it. Like, it wasn’t hard for, like, it was hard for the other students, but for me, like, that wasn’t where the grace was.

Lana

And I was striving to try and like, okay, well, this is what it must look like and this is what it’s meant to be. And so I just, I love that because I think that we always have to follow the grace of the Lord. And I know even in the last few weeks I’ve had conversations with numerous people that are saying to me, there’s so much going on in the world and I’m trying to pray for this and I’m trying to pray for that and I’m heartbroken over this and I don’t know how to pray and where to pray. And I’m worn out because I’m just praying for everything. And I’m like, yeah, but we have to be asking the Lord for his burdens and for his heart and follow in moment by moment. Where’s the grace? Okay, God’s brought this to my heart. I’m going to pray now. And so I just wanted to amen what you said really loudly because I think coming from my experience, I was very much, I need to pray eight hours a day because that’s, that’s what it looks like, and some seasons in my life, that’s what it’s looked like and there’s been grace on it, but then I’ve done it in other seasons and there’s no grace on it.

Lana

And I feel like. So, yeah, I just wanted to amen that.

Jeff

Well, I was just gonna say it’s, it’s. I think it’s part of our nature to look externally at things and especially if we’re looking at a, somebody that we look up to when. And you hear, you know, like you mentioned hearing somebody that’s doing a 40 day fast and, and you think, oh, I need to do a 40 day. I have both done 40 day fasts with the Lord’s grace, and I have attempted them multiple times without his grace. And I tell this story fairly often just because it was a good lesson. At the end of a 40 day fast, it was like the week after and I was at work and people were talking about dieting and things. I’m feeling pretty proud of myself. Hey, I did a 40 day fast and, and somebody’s talking about how they’re having a hard time with, with diet, you know, dieting and stuff. And, and my statement was, I said, oh, well, it’s not that hard for me. I’ve done a 40 day fast. And as soon as I said it, I heard the Lord say, and you just gave up your reward for it? And I was like, that’s what I just, I was like, wait, hang on, hang on.

Jeff

That was 40 days of me not eating. Are you saying I just get. Yeah, you just, you just gave up the reward point. And I was like, oof. But, but it was a lesson that was, you know, it was worth it. It’s, it’s a marking lesson of yeah, it, and it’s something that I actually have. For the past couple of years, I’ve really only been teaching out of the sermon on the mouth. And it just, it’s such a reset of, of some of our mindsets even once we, you know, we’re believers, we love the Lord, we’re pursuing the things of God, we’re doing ministry and all of that. And even when it comes to stewarding divine intelligence, you know, there’s, you see in the Sermon on the Mount, this theme of the things that you do just for the Lord are the things that really are valued. When you pray, don’t pray like the hypocrites do Go and shut your, your, the door to your inner room when you give, don’t give and announce it like the hypocrites Do. Don’t let your left hand know what your right hand’s doing when, you know, when you.

Jeff

We are supposed to be stewarding rewards in heaven, which means that we’re not doing it just for, you know, attention or. Or, you know, for people to see us as spiritual or whatever. And I went through a time where there was a season where I was doing a lot of street evangelism. All of the spiritual gifts were. I was using them specifically for sharing the gospel with people. And it was fun because you’re having all these encounters and things like that, and you’re sharing it on social media. You’re trying to encourage people. And at a certain point, I realized. I actually remember when it happened. I had done an event at a particular place where I told the Lord before I went. I said, lord, whatever happens, this is just between you and me. I’m not sharing. And after that event, I was invited in front of a international. It was a large church that has a very big online presence. And they. In the middle of the service, the pastor points at me, and he said, I heard about what happened, and I want you to come up and share. And I was like, I’m not going up.

Jeff

I set my friend up, and it actually put me on a season of not putting anything out there. Just like, lord, I just want my heart to be right with you. And that’s something that. When it comes to how we can. And this is just not just in social media, but how we communicate the things of the Lord, there. There are things that are holy. There are stories that are holy. There is. There is. His voice is not something that we need to treat as common. And it’s. It’s not that it’s supposed to be foreign, but it. But hearing from him regularly should never be something that we approach with any kind of irreverence. And. Yeah, and. And there’s also part of. Part of those things. You can train people on how to use the gifts pretty quickly, but how to steward those things has to be pastored and nurtured and discipled. And recently, Lonnie, you had a word about unrestrained prophetic voices. And so what. What kind of encouragement would you have for people that are unrestrained prophetic voices, but also in process and how to help them to steward their voice?

Lana

Well, yeah, that’s a really good question. And I love this because I think at times, like, I’ve used the word unrestrained. At other times, I’ve used the word, like, bold or wild voices. And the first thing that I say is that those words do not mean rebellious, right? They don’t mean like, you know, it’s the Lord’s heart to release voices that are not contained. And right now I believe that the Lord is raising up these bold voices who have been receiving words of the Lord. But maybe the tone of the Lord or even. So let me talk about me, for example. So some of the words that I have released over the years have. Have copped a bit of a lot of fire, some of them, because they’ve been put in a box of you don’t do that and. Or you don’t prophesy that way, or the tone of the Lord is too strong. And I think that right now there are many that are. That the Lord is raising up who are very much those that are unafraid to call things out as they are, but they’re ones that are really leaning in deeply to the word of God and they know him well.

Lana

And so I’m really encouraging people in this hour that the Lord is removing those muzzles. But it is very important that, number one, where you stay deep in the word, that you are a student of the Word and that you know the Lord’s heart. Because it is one thing to be an unrestrained, bold voice and you can go and release a bold prophetic word, but if it is devoid of the heart of the Lord, you know, that can do a lot more damage. And so I think that right now the Lord has been preparing a lot of these voices to now be coming up in this hour. And they’re ones that are going to. The boldness on them I don’t think we have seen yet. There is a very strong boldness that God is putting on them. But in that place, I would encourage them to really, you have to stay in community and stay in that place where there is accountability and that you have that real teachable spirit. Because in this hour, as God is raising up those unrestrained voices, we’re not. They’re not lone ranges and they are ones that I think as they arise, are going to challenge even more.

Lana

Some of the. I want to say this carefully. The. The structures and systems that maybe have been put in place around prophetic words that. That say, you can’t prophesy like that, so you can’t. That. That’s. That word is too strong or that’s. That’s. That sounds more Old Testament than it does New Testament. Like, at the end of the day, I think we need to come into a place of recognizing that the love of the Lord is always the Same. Right. But his tone changes at times to get our att. And so. Yeah. And so I think that for those coming up now, those unrestrained voices, my encouragement so deeply would be to remain in the Word, to stay deep in the secret place, to remain in community, and to not be afraid to speak when God says speak. Because you may be the only one that’s. That that stands up and speaks. But if you have the heart of the Lord and the word of the Lord that’s been tested, then you’re going to stand up and proclaim the word of the Lord that is going to see the power of the Lord and his mighty hand that’s going to come and accompany that word.

Lana

And I think that those unrestrained voices have very much been through the fire, and the Lord has really removed that fear of man. But also those unrestrained voices, all of us need to be in a place where we are. Yeah. In community. Does that make sense? And like. And being able to be taught and shepherded and not lonely submitted. That’s the word I was looking for.

Kevin

Yes, but to put some framework around that, too. I mean, she’s not saying…

Kevin

Sometimes You can read a prophetic word and you just know that they’re angry about something. You just know that they’re upset about something. And that’s coming through the word itself, because even. Even when Lana’s released words. So. Okay, let’s. Let’s use this. Is this example. So Lana released a book back 2009, 2010, somewhere on that called Desperately Deep. And I had the opportunity to read through and just. Just refresh the language a little bit, probably about, you know, 10 years later now I was reading through the prophetic words that Lana released 10 years before in that book. And they were so right. They were so fresh, even on that day. But I could hear lana’s voice from 10 years before. I could hear. So when God speaks through people, he uses us. He uses our, you know, and our accents come through, our personalities come through. But unfortunately, now, I couldn’t see it in that book, but I definitely have seen it in other. In, you know, in maybe, you know, sometimes you read a prophetic word or sometimes you Even, even, even I think, you know, some things that we’ve seen in the past that, you know, you’re upset about something and that comes out.

Kevin

That anger, that frustration comes out in the prophetic word, and that’s not the voice of God. So, yes, these people are free, but there are also people that have got past that Anger that have, that have had that character dealt with. Yeah, sorry. I just felt that framework out there because, yeah, a lot of people, A lot of people will. Can prophesy from anger and say, this is God’s anger too. And yes, God may be angry about something, but doesn’t it. But that doesn’t have to come through as our own fleshly anger in what we prophesy.

Jeff

Well, I’m going to horribly misquote this verse, but it’s something like the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God. And, And I think I, I’ve actually heard. I’ve actually had somebody say, say the same thing to me of God. Doesn’t, doesn’t talk that way or you can’t prophesy that way. That’s not a prophetic word. I’ve had that one before. Even, even on things of a word, of knowledge about somebody’s sin that they admitted that they had it because it didn’t align with this leader’s theology. They said, oh, that’s not prophecy. I said, yeah, I didn’t, I didn’t call it prophecy. You know, I’m just saying this is what the Lord said. And they said, oh, well, that, that’s not prophecy. That’s a, that’s a word of knowledge. And I said, call it whatever that, you know, I said, I’m not, I’m not debating. They said, discerning his spirits. That’s what they said. It’s discerning his spirits. And I thought, what are we arguing over? And there’s still. I think that part of what I’m hearing is. And one is I’m aware that my own. I’m a flawed person as much as I am redeemed of the Lord.

Jeff

We’re all still broken vessels. And he’s still using broken vessels to communicate through. And part of that process means anytime I release a prophetic word, if I have to be willing to take ownership if something that comes out is my emotions represented as the Lord, because then it’s misleading people or misrepresenting the nature of God. And again, that’s just as much of a holy thing. And in stewarding the prophetic at the same time, just because there’s an element of anger doesn’t mean it’s not the Lord. And there are certain theologies, I think, or mindsets that people have when it comes to receiving prophetic words that they only want God to say, you know, what they want to hear. And when you get in this place of relationship with the Lord, I’m not trying to dictate to him what he says. I want what he has to say more than I want to be right. And I think that’s a, you know, something that in the prophetic movement we’ve, because encouragement is such a frequent element in prophecy that we’ve mistook all prophecy as direct encouragement. And you know, the Lord can, he can prophetically rebuke your socks off.

Jeff

I mean he’s done with me more than once. Yeah, but you, the somebody else may look at it and you know, like me talking about how I just did a 40 day fast and the Lord said, and you just lost the reward for it. That wasn’t like a fun word to hear, but it was actually really good. Like it had this element of it that was, that was so good. And I felt so both corrected but also loved because I didn’t. At least he told me after one 40 day fast what if I’d have done like three or four of them before he told me, you know, and blew all of them.

Kevin

Yeah, yeah.

Jeff

You know, so I think, I think we’re, we’re maturing in the prophetic movement to a higher standard of what it means to be Christ, like in response to those, that type of information and intelligence.

Kevin

Also I think anytime, anytime the rhema of God is communicated, I think it can fall under the, the definition of prophecy. And I’m pretty sure even Tozer, now I hope I’m not misquoting him, but I’m pretty sure even Tozer said that that prophecy, basically he talks about a preacher preaching the word of God and he calls that prophecy as well. And I think the same thing. I mean we can definitely misrepresent the word of God through preaching in the same way that we can misrepresent the word of God through the prophetic voice. The same, the same dangers are there, but we definitely put more boundaries around the prophetic or we try to eliminate one version of the prophetic that doesn’t feel comfortable when it seems fit. And some circles definitely.

Lana

And I think we’re in the hour as well where the tone of the Lord has changed. Like it, the Lord. I think in this hour the Lord is, he’s really like he’s cleaning house, he’s building his church as the like the overcoming bride. Like there’s that, that sense in the atmosphere, isn’t it like we’re in the urgent hour. Like it’s like the Lord’s got things to do. And I remember Chris Valentin saying he had an encounter recently over the last couple of years. And he saw the Lord and the Lord was on the move. And there was like this fierceness of the Lord. And he said to Chris, just don’t get in the way. Like, there was that. That sense of the Lord’s like, I’ve got things to do, like, and there was like, whoa. Like the. The kind of fear of the Lord, of like, let’s get on board and align with what he’s doing. And I’ll just say this very quickly and then I’ll stop talking. But I just think something that was very helpful for me was in what you said, Jeff, about the prophetic words and sometimes hearing the tone of the Lord quite strongly or reading a word that could be quite strong.

Lana

When I wrote my book, I hear the Lord say new era. It came out of a series of encounters where it was almost felt like overnight the tone of God’s voice changed. And I went into these encounters where the Lord was, you know, he was talking about things like Ichabod, and he was talking about things like, you know, cleaning house. Like, I’m talking full on things. And I wrestled really deeply. I’m like, I was struggling. And so I actually rang Patricia King and I said to her, I need you to help me because am I off track? Like, I need someone to speak into what’s happening right now. Because if I’m off track, I want to come back into alignment. And she said to me, no, you’re not. She said, what’s happened is we’re in the time right now. She said, where there’s clothes all, like, she said, I’ll give you this example. She said, if I go into my children’s bedroom and there’s clothes all over the floor, I’ll say, pick up your clothes and I’ll go out of the room, and then I’ll come back in five minutes later and the clothes are still on the floor.

Lana

I’ll go pick up your clothes. I’ll go out of the room, she said. By the fourth time I come in, she said, my tone to my children has drastically changed. Pick up your clothes. Stronger, she said, but my love for my children has not shifted. It’s not changed, she said. And so when we hear the Lord’s tone that’s strong like that, it’s always from a place of love, and it’s always to motivate us and get us aligned and get us to move into action and alignment with what he’s speaking. And so I just wanted to comment because I loved what you just said, Jeff, because I think there’s been this place of, I’ve seen in the prophetic movement at times where a word has come that is strong but has the heart of the Lord but can be pushed aside because it doesn’t make me feel, I don’t feel Holy Ghost goosebumps straight away. Do you know what I mean? And I think that out of his love, he is, he’s aligning and correcting and strengthening us and bringing that plumb line back to the church to bring us back to first love. And so you just, you got me started because that, that just burdens in me what you shared.

Lana

So.

Jeff

Yeah, well, I think to quote Bill Johnson on, you know, to, if you want the peace that the path is understanding, you have to give up your right to understand that that has a lot of times the Lord gives us the understanding after the fact. You know, you don’t, you only have a limited picture of it. And it’s, it’s a question of are you going to, you’re going to be obedient or do you need to have all the information? And, you know, in the example that you gave with Chris Valentin, the Lord doesn’t always explain. He doesn’t owe us explanations. He’s. He’s both, He’s a loving father, and that never changes. But there’s times where he’s functioning as Lord, as judge, as a warrior, and when he’s. Somebody once gave me the example of if, if you had a meeting with President, at the time, it was President Trump, he said, if you had a meeting with President Trump, you don’t get to just walk in to the Oval Office and start having this normal, casual conversation with him because, because of who he is. There’s times that you approach him, even his own children.

Jeff

There’s times that you approach him in a different way because of the office that he’s in. And there’s, there’s, because of that, there’s times where the Lord, we relate to him in different ways because he’s not limited. And sometimes I think we’ve, we forget that emotion came from the Lord. You know, we think he’s only, he’s always got to be happy. Like, yeah, he’s happy. There’s times where he’s. He’s not happy, you know, that he’s not restricted to some little box. And, and one of the things like, you know, that, that several of the words that had come out in the past and, and Lonnie, you had some of these also about the Lord removing weeds from the church, it was again, it’s a strong word. And it’s. And in the context of Reformation and one of the things that. Reformation or revival, they’re kind of buzzwords in the charismatic. Right. You can. You can always prophesy them and people will say amen. But. But a lot of times what those things actually mean looks very different than what our expectations are and believe a very uncomfortable pruning. Right? Pruning. Everyone say amen. You know, oh, amen, pruning.

Jeff

I’m like, you go through a pruning process and we’ll see how quick you amen on the next one, you know.

Kevin

Yeah.

Jeff

Not to be cynical, but. But just that it’s just the reality behind some of these words. The Lord has more meaning there than what we. We always grab. And when I. Some of the words of Reformation and Lord bringing cleaning house to the church, some of the things that we’re seeing now, especially in the Texas area with scandal, scandals after scandals and, you know, public ministries and that. That are having all kinds of issues. It’s the way that I’ve been encouraging people anyway, is that this is actually a good thing. Thing. Not. Not that it doesn’t feel good, but these are things that have been present for a period of time. And the Lord doesn’t want that, that to continue because people are getting hurt. Whether, even if it has a public image that looks good, if behind the scenes people are getting hurt, the Lord is not just overlooking those people. And I think that’s part of the Reformation that we’re seeing is the body is coming back into this place of being authentic and serving Jesus and authentic relationships with one another. It’s very simple. The Gospel is supposed to be simple. But what are some of the other things that you guys are seeing as far as reformation in the way that we practice church?

Lana

That’s a very good question. Yeah, I definitely agree. I think unity is a very, very big one. I think that the Lord is bringing us back to that place of unity. I think that there is a great move of God in this hour to, as he’s cleaning house, as he’s, you know, purifying his bride, I think that he’s bringing us back to his ways. Now, the way that I want to say this in a way that is. Communicates properly what I’m thinking, but I really believe that God is bringing us back to the place where it’s his way first. Like, there’s. There’s no. Because I think we’ve. We’ve relied so heavily upon man’s ways or we’ve relied on, you know, structures, we’ve relied on programs. I’m not saying these things are bad, but I think that we’ve come too far one way. And I think that the Lord is bringing us back to a place, place where whatever your way is, Lord, that’s, that’s what I want. Whatever it looks like, whether it’s building like whatever context that looks like, it’s your way. And it really ties into that, that place of boldness, that place of like the, the unrestrained, like wild obedience, like to the Lord, like, no matter what that looks like, I think we’re coming back to a place, place of the simple.

Lana

Like the simple gospel. You said it before, but I’ve had so many dreams, Jeff, where the Lord has said things to me like I’m bringing my church back to the two greatest commandments or like the he said to me at times, you know, as humans, you can overcomplicate things, Lana. You over complicate things, you know, and just I feel like following in the way of Jesus and in his footsteps and the way of God, I think God is bringing us back to. And I mean, I know we look at the church of Acts and you know, we go, oh, wow, like. And I think, yes, like God is bringing us back in some ways. But there’s also so much more I think that God is bringing us into in this hour. But I just, I, yeah, I really feel like he’s. He’s bringing the church to this place of radical, like, radical obedience that is just like if God says build an ark, like I’m gonna build an ark, like, even if people say that I’m crazy. And so I think that in everything that God is doing, I think he’s preparing a bride that is just so devoted and laid down first love.

Lana

And I’ll follow in whatever way that looks like and just so void of our own junk plans. Yeah, right.

Kevin

Yeah, yeah. But I mean the. I think we look at what’s going on in, you know, the leaders that are really, I guess, been pushed up, pushed, sometimes even pushed aside, elevated. I guess these are long seated issues that they’ve had a long time that they could have repented for. And there has been a prevailing message amongst some church groups that, you know, it doesn’t matter that the sin that you’re in because God’s grace has covered it. But there’s no fear of the Lord in that statement. And one thing that I remember, Lana, I mean, one thing that I’ve certainly heard Lana say over the last. Oh, I Don’t know. Eight years or so is just how the fear of the Lord is going to come back to the church and coming back in a strong way. Yes, there is grace for us to find, you know, to walk through repentance in the process. There is grace for that, but there’s not grace for us to live in our junk. We can’t be satisfied with that. The grace doesn’t cover us living in it. The grace covers us as we cleanse ourselves of that. Any ministry, any time that we represent the Lord is a privilege anytime that we come before the Lord.

Kevin

I mean, I’ve said before that, you know, we shouldn’t be so quick to come to the Lord’s, to nestle in deep to the Lord’s heart if we’re not going to be afraid to hurt that. And I’m not saying that. I mean, it’s not an easy thing to hurt the Lord’s heart. But that said, how much of a terrible thing would it be to hurt the Lord’s heart? I mean, I would feel bad if I. If I betray Lana. If I. If she tells me something or if. If I. If I’ve done something to hurt her, I would feel bad for that. But how much more should we feel afraid or feel like we just. We just don’t want to go there? We. How much more should we feel hesitant to hurt the Lord’s heart? And so when we minister from complacency, we step away from the fear of the Lord. And I say we a lot. I’m sorry, that’s just. That’s just how.

Jeff

That’s just.

Kevin

I talk about the royal we. I mean, I include myself in that too, because I’m. I’m very. I’m. I’m prone to doing it too, that. To forgetting where I’m at. Forgetting, you know, forgetting the absolute, absolute privilege it is to stand in the Lord’s presence and speak. And then I look at, you know, look at what has been done before. And I’m sad for that because I’m sad for. I’m sad for the Lord’s heart in that process too, that somebody. That we all can do it. But I think that so coming. I guess what I’m trying to say is coming back to the fear of the Lord is, I think, where. Where I see things headed. I see I. Coming back to the fear of the Lord is where I see these things being uprooted and shown and exposed. Because that is a. That is something that we must. That must do as a church. And that is something that is happening. I think.

Jeff

Well, I think there’s a connection between the fear of the Lord and intimacy with the Lord and. And for. For whatever reason, there’s different teachings and things that go around about how you don’t have to fear the Lord because you’re close with Him. And part of. Kevin, part of what. Even what I’m hearing you say is in the nature of intimacy is the potential to hurt and to be hurt. There’s a vulnerability that the closer that you get that the person that can hurt you the most is the person that’s closest to you. It doesn’t. It doesn’t mean that you focus on the ability, you know, your. Your spouse and their ability to hurt you or vice versa, but it does mean that the person that has the most potential to be hurt by. By us, if we’re closest to the Lord, it’s. It’s mutual, right? Where. Where mutual intimacy with the Lord. And the closer and closer I get to him, I am. I become more aware that I have a potential to hurt his heart and that the fear of the Lord comes right in that place of man. I don’t want to hurt his heart.

Jeff

I don’t want to hurt. And again, we can forget that the Lord can be hurt. And Jesus wept. That quick verse. There you go. Jesus wept. The Lord can be hurt by our. How we respond to him. And, you know, so we’ve kind of covered a broad subject, a broad group of subjects in the interview, but I wanted to ask y’all just to pray for the viewers, anything that’s on your heart.

Lana

Yeah, I’d love to. Oh, Holy Spirit, we thank you for being present here, Lord God, I thank you for what you’ve done today, Lord God. And Lord, I just pray for every person, Lord God, that is listening and. Or watching this. Lord God, I pray right now just for a supernatural refreshment right now, Lord God, I pray that your rivers of living water, Lord God, would just pour over them, Lord, the rivers of your spirit, that you would bring refreshment, Lord, to every part of them, Lord God. And Lord, I thank you that this hour, that there is such a deep invitation into the. Into your heart, Lord God. There is such a deep invitation into the place of intimacy with you and to hear what your spirit is saying, Lord God. And I thank you, Lord, for I just see this. This increase of sensitivity to your spirit, Lord God. And I thank you for that increase, Lord, for the eyes to see and ears to hear, that they would hear and perceive, receive and receive, Lord God. Your Word and your voice in their life in greater ways. In this hour, Lord God and I thank you that you are clarifying and you are confirming revelation to them in this hour, Lord God, I thank you that confusion, Lord God, is breaking off of people and that there is such a fortification happening in your word to arise and to stand and to walk on the word that you have given them, Lord God and I thank you that there will be such a demonstration of your power as they walk upon your word.

Lana

That there would be impossibilities, Lord God. That they would walk upon, Lord God, that they would tread upon in your holy name. In this hour, Lord God and I just thank you. I see the arising of the water walkers in this hour, Lord God, to walk upon your word, Lord God, and to walk in such a supernatural grace and empowerment of your spirit to do the impossible. So Lord, I thank you for a fresh commissioning over your people in this hour, Lord God, to go forth and to accomplish that which you have placed in their hands, Lord God, I thank you that you are broadening their perspective and you are expanding their borders, Lord God. To follow in your ways in this hour, Lord God, with radical obedience that that supernatural grace is coming upon them grace upon grace upon grace in this hour. To follow you where you’re leading, Lord God, and to build unapologetically. So I thank you Lord, for breaking today anything that may contain, Lord God or. Or hold them back from building and following you in the ways that you’re calling them to build and Lord, the paths that you’re calling them to walk.

Lana

So I thank you for that unrestrained, unapologetic boldness, Lord God, and wind of your spirit, Lord, that is is empowering them to do what you’re calling them to do in this hour as they hear and perceive and receive your word in Jesus name. Thank you, Lord.

Kevin

Lord Jesus, I just. I just praise you for the shift of focus to you. I praise you that we can all come before you and. And leave ourselves, Lord Jesus, behind in your presence of glory. And as Lord Jesus, we do, we just pray that you come and you’ll show us, Lord Jesus, not only the people that you’ve created us to be, Lord Jesus. You’ll show us your fingerprints all over our lives, Lord Jesus. But you will show us, Lord God, everything that we should lay behind. But Lord, above all, I praise you for the things that you’ve called us to speak into. Every single person, Lord Jesus, the body of Christ, every single one of us is a workmanship that you’ve created for something. Lord, show us our lane. Reveal to us the grace that you’ve given us to speak into. Undergird us, Lord Jesus, with the message. Lord Lord God of your love and may we be just walking vessels of your. Of just your hope. Lord, I pray. I thank you for your truth in our lives. May we all come to know you more and know your word. Lord Jesus, I just praise you for this day and every day that we can come and be before you.

Kevin

It’s such an awesome privilege. Thank you Lord.

Lana

Amen. Amen.

Jeff

Amen.

Lana

And apologies for the amening sounds of my one year old that broke into my office mid prayer.

Jeff

It. It would be. It would be unfair of us to talk about the blending of family and ministry to not have. Not have kids run in and scream in the middle of prayer time. So get it. Well, Lana and Kevin, thank you for joining us.

Lana

Thank you Jeff. It’s been a real joy.

Kevin

It’s been an honor. Thank you.

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